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conversation by asking you, what are the chances that we will get a fiscal cliff deal by the end of this year? wince think they're reasonably good. all the building blocks are in place. at this point really people just have to choose from the options that are available. and it's hugely consequence for the country if we fail. so i remain opposite sdns-- optimisc. >> we heard dramatic sound bites when do we start rung out of time and risk going over the cliff? how much time dow need to get an agreement? >> well, realistically, if an agreement were reached in the next several weeks there would be time to get all of the language put together to have it implemented. so there is still significant time to get this agreement reached. >> as you know house speaker boehner was calling on democrats today to propose specific spending cuts to entitlement programs. we foe that the white house is proposing around $300 billion in cuts to medicare is that all the program can take or are republicans right in saying there is more room to cut entitlement spending? >> well, look financial they think it should be m
breaking news. new details on the fiscal cliff deal that timothy geithner put on the table today during his meeting with congressional leaders on the hill. these details just coming in. jessica yellin has that and what have you learned about what geithner took you know, listed out with the numbers and put on the table? >> hey, erin, here are some of the details i'm getting from senior officials on both sides. the headline is that he put out a number of $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that was at according to republican officials, a surprise. they expected a much smaller number and that has some republicans crying foul. he proposes extending unemployment insurance. continuing the dock fix. that's approving additional spending on medicare to pay doctors. the amt patch protecting middle income americans. $50 billion in stimulus next year and in return, the administration would offer $400 billion in additional medicare and other entitlement savings next year to be spelled out as they negotiate. there would also be an agreed mechanism for allowing a vote on a debt ceiling increase for perpetui perpe
fiscal cliff deals is incredible. >> and the sad part, for the american people who are watching from the outside, is they don't realize how much of this theater getting to the deal. we know we have to have -- boehner's going to have to talk tough because it seem likes he's holding firm and the white house is holding firm and the left groups are going to flip and right groups are going to flip and it's going to be this dance, and then we'll get to a deal somehow. if you're saying okay, am i -- are my taxes going up on the 1st or not? >> they are. >> they are, one way or the other. people in the country the way they pay for christmas, focus groups heard this over and over, take out a loan to buy presents, against what they think they'll get back in tax returns to pay back that loan. for those people, all of this dance, we joke, and it is funny and ridiculously childish and high school, maybe junior high, it's scary for people on outside saying -- >> the personal approval rating is 9%, up to 11% now. >> let's also keep in mind, optics are part of this. person who has all of the leverage
'll turn their back on the pledge if it gets a deal done on the fiscal cliff. >> i think a lot of people made the pledge 20 years ago, 50 years ago and i think they realize we're in a very critical time for our country and this issue has to be dealt with. revenues needs to be a part of the component and entitlement reform, true entitlement reform has to be there also in order for us to put this in the rear view mirror. >> that's a big change. so what would the former republican party flag bearer say. >> change can't be measured in speeches. it's measured in results. >> that was mitt romney attacking president obama, but it works for his own party, too. now, let's move on to immigration. romney's deportation stands didn't sit well with a growing number of hispanic voters and now two retiring reporters are pushing their own version of the dream act. it gives children the path to citizenship. >> we're introducing this legislation, which is not dissimilar from what the president has done de facto as a way of righting the situation, but doing it the right way. namely, to change the law. >> ch
the markets are really going to be dealing with the political wrangling over the fiscal cliff to begin the week. really no agreements to speak of and i really don't think you're going to see any. it's going to come down to one of these last minute issues because both sides continue to butt heads and we're no closer than we were two weeks ago. from an employment perspective, look for the numbers to come in on average probably around 100 to 125 thousand jobs created. that's where our average really stands. maybe some skewed data from hurricane sandy but you back that out and i think things really stand the same. gold futures and options are very popular right now. what's going on here? i think really one has to think about if this economy would ever get any legs, any momentum. you have to think about the inflation picture. the fed has got so much emphasis on this market. it's an open ended quantitative easing market at this point. any type of momentum, any type of inflation, people are going to be concerned about that and that's why you're seeing this major interest in gold. will warmer
both hint that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is on the way. possibly in time for santa. i asked republican john cornyn whether he thinks that is a reality. >>> and governor romney sits down with the president since the election, actually since the debates. does this do either of them any good? rick santorum is out front. and julian assange is out front to answer critics and our questions tonight. let's go "out front." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, an early christmas miracle. or at least the glimmer of one today. barack obama bringing glad ti tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver those presents. no smile from either one of them. but investors didn't care, they're excited about the present,
a deal. you've got 98% agreement on taxes. take that deal. don't go over the fiscal cliff. live to find another deal on a grand bargain. tax reform, entitlement. >> you really think democrats, they get that tax increase, that they're going to come and give spending cuts later. >> i think there are ways you can try to make it. eric's made a great point historically that things like ruddman, the spending cuts never end up happening. everyone who's realistic at the table recognizes you've got to have a balanced plan. serious cuts and revenue increases. you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close loopholes and raise revenue. >> all right. thanks to both. appreciate it. more than
a deal on that fiscal cliff. just 31 days left until we hit those $7 trillion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases if negotiations break down. and both sides of the aisle are going straight to the public in order to plead their case, or rather tell us why the other side is to blame. this is president obama in his weekly radio address. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans onboard, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> in the republican response, senator orrin hatch takes th s hostage metaphor one step further and brings to mind a memorable movie scene. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are offering a disastrous thelma and luiz strategy that would take u
's the theme song for that. our theme song today is will we get a fiscal cliff deal done? and i appreciate the music and hopefully we'll hear some sweet music from congress about this. getting down to the wire, guys. >> wow. i don't even know where to start. >> don't stop. keep going. >> please stop. please stop. >> i had a lot of sugared cereal for breakfast this morning. >> references -- he's great is what he is. >> a deejay? you're a deejay? >> a guy throwing around references coming off wilkos like that is aok can me. >> movie anchorman today, sullivan. >> stop it. >> so, brian sullivan international, what exactly does san diego mean in german and, secondly -- >> it's an ancient german word. >> my god. >> and, secondly, brian sullivan international, what do the futures look like right now based on the distressing opening salvo yesterday between tim geithner and republican leaders? >> mika can't hide behind the book. they don't look like much. they're flat to slightly down. everybody is in wait-and-see mode here. there's a story out that mitch mcconnell burst out laughing when tim geith
spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level deal at this time? >> i don't think there's -- i don't think it's a productive for either side to lay out hard lines in terms of what the size of the spending cuts ought to be. there's clearly -- there are a lot of options on how you could get there. but the second part of your question was? >> my question is, do you think the promise of spending cuts has to be included in the deal that averts the fiscal cliff? >> listen, there's a framework that we presented to the white house two weeks ago. the framework is -- has been agreed to in terms of really a down payment on the end of this year. that would include spending cuts and it would include revenue. setting up a process for entitlement reform next year, and tax reform next year. but this was way out of balance. and not a recognition on the part of the white house about the serious spending problem that we have. [ inaudible question ] going over the fiscal cli
a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. a huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in january one. they spent time blaming each other for not getting serious. in his weekly address, president obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastrous thelma and louise idea, that will put us in jeopardy, for small business and other parts of the e
of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make his case. >> i have got a pen. [ laughter ] i'm ready to sign it. [ applause ] so, my point here today is is to say let's approach this problem with the middle class in mind. the folks who are behind me and the millions of people all across the country who they represent. >> shepard: well, republicans are saying they need some spending cuts. that they will also have to be part of the deal. and they are accusing the president of campaigning instead of negotiating. >> i mean, every week he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we are not solving the problem. it's completely counter productive. the election is over. he won. congratulations. and we have got a hard deadline here, however, and it's still he he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. >> shepard: if the president and congress cannot cu
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and fall among the comments on the fiscal cliff. there was optimism that a deal could be reached before christmas. the dow is up 106, the nasdaq up 23. >>> sales of single family homes are dow slightly. a .3% decline was reported today showing a slow recovery for the housing market. economists expect home construction to add to economic growth this year. >>> the megabus service is coming back. the expanded service area includes los angeles, sacramento and reno. and it begins december 12th. fares start as low at $1 for advanced bookings. the price goes up as your travel date gets closer. previously served the west coast back in 2007 and 2008. >>> a 15-year-old faces a judge on charges of attempted murder of a police >>> back now to our storm watch coverage. and you are tracking some significant rainfall. >> it's going to add up and be cumulative through the next few days. take a look at a map of northern california. as we get to sunday we're talking over ten inches of rain. the north bay could see seven to eight inches and the bay area proper, 4 inches of rain. the santa cruz
, but they are expected to discuss strategies for dealing with the fiscal cliff. tim ' ner, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator meets today with congressional leaders to get the negotiations moving. >>> while you were sleeping lindsay lohan was arrested -- again. the new york city police department took her in after a fight at a club here in the city. officers say there is a possibility lohan hit a woman. they didn't confirm if she's being charged with anything at this point. >> lindsay lohan, club, 4:00 a.m., new york, bad combination. >>> anything can happen on the streets of new york city including a pony and a zebra running free on staten island. they escaped from the pen in the yard where they live but they were returned to the owner. >> is the zebra chasing the pony? >> looks like it. >>. >>> the new york times reporting on an officer who's a hero. he's kneeling down to put a new pair of boots on a homeless man. the 25-year-old officer purchased them at a nearby shoe store after noticing that the man was barefoot and was blistering. a woman from arizona snapped this photo with her cell phone c
to get you up to speed on the day's headlines here on cnn. fiscal cliff talks are turning into a high-stakes game of chicken. secretary tim geithner said there's no deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we'll have to make. >> republicans are furious. they don't like democrats drawing a red line in the sand. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it is pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. >> president barack obama and gop leaders held one face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the kansas city chiefs suited up and took the field today against carolina. that's despite the shock and horror of yesterday's suicide of linebacker jevon belcher. stay right there with full details in a full report on cnn in just a minute. >>> high winds and heavy rain are pummeling the northwest. the rainfall will continue throughout the
off the fiscal cliff. >> we're facing a fiscal grand canyon. >> okay. so it's a big deal. question is can these guys strike a deal? >> i've got to repeat. i've got a pen. >> meantime, damage control for u.n. ambassador susan rice out to smooth things over with this week with republicans after those benghazi talking point. >> exextremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. >> it didn't work. now their talking points. >> we are significantly troubled. >> i want to say that i'm more troubled today. >> democrats shot back. >> they are not only blaming her for this intelligence report, they are trying to blame her for the actual tragic event. >> i've seen so much crazy stuff in this house could i write a book. >> or make an internet video. >> not be a true god-fearing person and be on a television show like that. >> that's actor angus t. jones, the "two and a half men" star caught slamming his own tv show. >> if you watch "two and a half men," please don't watch "two and a half men." i'm on "two and a half men," and i don't want to be on it. >> he apologized, but still
'll collect laterr. working on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. who pays the price if congress fails to act. is it a make or make term? reverend did you like the president's tone yesterday if the goal was to come to a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i think his tone was appropriate because it is even and not an taganistic and fair and balanced in its aproachh and invitesorths to come to the table and indicates a willingness to have a give and take. that's what the american people expect. >> brian: when he said to go visit a manufacturing plant with tinker toys and have a twitter address and hash my 2 k to put pressure on republicans. is that a right tone to get something done? >> i think it is not the president versus republicans. i think the president want to stay close to the american people so that when he goes in the roomm he goes in as the winner of the last election where the majority of the americans made a choice and reminds americans that he has a authority to cut a deal. >> brian: if you find out a deal is cut and no entitlement reform would you think it was successful? >> no.
the fiscal cliff deadline. and while the deal will actually be made in washington, politicians are taking their message on the road and straight to the voters. cnn political editor paul steinhouser has more. >> good morning. the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're
to strike a deal before the end of the year on reducing the national debt to avoid that fiscal cliff. republican aid describe the tentative white house proposal this way. $1.6 trillion in revenue presented by secretary treasury secretary timothy geithner and stimulus and $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings. a permanent increase in the debt limit. >> so, let's get more on the standoff right now. joining us senator bernie sanders of vermont. he caucuses with the democrats. senator, first of all, congratulations on your re-election. thanks for coming in. republicans say, you know what, they'll be flexible, but the democrats have to be flexible, too, especially when it comes to entitlement spending. medicare, medicaid and even reform. are you open to any of that? >> when republicans talk about being flexible, we have not heard one definitive word to what they mean. second of all, our republican friends look up and understand that this issue of the fiscal cliff was debated during the election and, you know what, mitt romney lost. obama won. the american people are very
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for word. but first this, the fiscal cliff, the talks hit a huge road bump. zingers and verbal jabs are flying while actual talks are at a stand still. president obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as first part of any deal. and he linked republicans to scrooge today while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> that's pretty scroogy, right? president obama's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say, the president's proposal's nothing but a political stunt. here is boehner. >> the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax
to change them. and my only point is, you know, if we had a game, and every time the term fiscal cliff came up people had to donate a dollar to something, you'd be amazed in the course of a week or two how often this has been repeated like a mantra. i compared to a great essay by tom wolf in which people chanted and made noise in order to get their way. i think we ought to recognize this entire fiscal cliff is an artificial invention of washington, created by people in the congress and the presidency, and it can be broken down by them into a series of steps that can be taken without having to be rushed into one gigantic last-minute, little understood, with no hearings, one vote up or down, i think it's a terrible way to govern the united states. >> greta: well, the sequestration deadline is coming up the 1st of january. what people are saying on capitol hill, the president is saying, congress is saying, it may be scary stuff, but if we go over the fiscal cliff that all sorts of things will happen, that there will be another recession, we'll go deeper into our existing one, if we have an exi
from that so-called fiscal cliff. there appears to be very little movement toward any kind of deal. president obama is using the bully-pulpit to appeal to the american people to push for immediate action to push the tax cuts for everybody except for those earning more than $250,000 a year. in his saturday address, he stressed the urgency of the situation. >> if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle-class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2200. we can't let that happen. a families can't afford it and neither can our economy. >> reporter: republicans led by house speaker john boehner says he should quit campaigning and take care of the business at hand. republicans say they are willing to consider raising more revenue but they want to see spending cuts to go along with it. >> we need to hear they are willing to make spending cuts now, not promises of spending cuts sometime if the future. to me the tidal waves that are coming at us is social security and medicare and the new healt
is revealing what they discussed. >>> on wall street, stocks ended mixed with a fiscal cliff. the dow industrials gained 82 points amid optimism about a deal in washington perhaps in the next week. the tech heavy nasdaq fell 22 led lower by apple. its shares were 6% lower. apple's largest loss in a year. apple shares lost $37 to close at 538 and change. still apple stock is up more than $100 since the start of the year. >>> meantime, citigroup announced plans to cut 11,000 jobs, or 4% of its workforce. the company says the cuts will save more than $1 billion a year. the bulk of the jobs are in global operations. it is unclear how many jobs will be lost here in the united states. >>> i already calculated your rain total for the day. next, the conditions you can expect tomorrow that will impact your morning commute. >> california lawmakers buying state cars. the new report that reveals how that move actually costs taxpayers thousands of dollars. >> a modern jazz giant. what we uncovered by dave ruebeck's strong ties to the bay area. >>> a new report shows at least a dozen california law
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a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham said. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare, medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. the president's plan when it comes to entitlement form is quite frankly a joke. >> so over the weekend the sunday shows, you saw geithner basically drawing a line in the sand. he
thish to drove us off the fiscal cliff. we're in the political dance now. we've seen this time and time again. there is still three weeks for a deal to be cut. the problem is that the white house threw down a heavy marker yesterday. we'll have to see if they're willing to compromise. it's got to be compromised on both sides. >> that's right. the marker they threw down, kevin, is it the white house says actual tax rates, the top tax rate, 35%, has to go up for the rich. and that limiting deductions won't be enough to get a deal. now you wrote in the atlantic this week that despite that there is a way around this for republicans who don't want to incur the wrath of norquist or as mark suggests, voters. how? >> right. so grover norquist pledge is actually incredibly misunderstood. it's based on what washington budgeting organizations call the current law baseline. what that means is that what scheduled to go into effect already is baked into the cake. and because the bush tax cuts are expiring provisions that were voted for ten years ago, it doesn't really count as a tax hike when they're
and republic leaders in congress have just 31 days to strike a deal before we fall off the fiscal cliff. but so far it's not looking like either side is willing to compromise. >> our next guest says there has been a failure in leadership to solve this crisis. joining us now is texas congressman louie gohmert. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> this is not necessarily against the president you have blasted g.o.p. leaders this week for a failure to lead basically saying we need to stand on our principles. they have a delegate -- delicate position to deal with. >> up until last week there had been a failure of leadership. the president out there finally pushing so far look we are going to forget the constitution. i'm going to basically pronounce law as i speak it congress hasn't done what i wanted, so we're just gonna ignore congress' constitutional right to appropriate. congress' constitutional right to set debt ceilings and we're going to ignore that that's what basically -- geithner basically announced. speaker boehner said look we can't allow that to happen. the fact is we can't. if we fa
. athena jones, live in washington. we'll talk about the prospects for a deal on the fiscal cliff in the next half hour when we're joined by democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas and republican congressman tim huelskanm. >>> the united nations general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday to upgrade the status of the palestinian authority to non-member state. palestinians celebrated this endorsement of the move towards statehood. but the united states and israel strongly opposed the resolution. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott is in washington to explain what it all means. why do the u.s. and israel think this is not a good move for -- for palestinians? >> well, christine, i mean, it signals the frustration on the part of the world, and the lack of the peace process. and what the u.s. is saying is that it really doesn't give the palestinians what they want, which is an actual state. it doesn't give them borders. it doesn't give them any sovereignty. and so all of their u.s. argues is going to do is antagonize israel and lead to more frustration if israel
or congress to come together and reach a deal on avoiding that fiscal cliff and we are nowhere even close to any compromise after the president's proposal, ali. >> alisyn: yeah, it's not looking promising. because the president, i mean, the republicans say at that they were hoping that the president was going to try to meet them more in the middle or halfway because they all had agreed that they could raise 800 billion dollars with each of their separate tax proposals, one was to close loopholes on the republican side. and the president to raise on individuals and now the number has changed. the president in his proposal wants 1.6 trillion dollars in tax increases. here is the president on how the g.o.p. has not been cooperating. >> if congress does nothing, every family will see their income taxes automatically go up, a typical middle class family will see their taxes rise by 2200 dollars, but it's unacceptable for some in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they refuse to let the tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> a lot of people saying that there's not b
on the stump pressing republicans to cut a deal averting the fiscal cliff. >> it's like the lump of coal you get for christmas. it's a scrouge christmas. >> there's a stalemate, let's not kid ourself rs. >> reporter: things got tense after secretary geithner visited capitol hill thursday to present what republicans are calling an unreasonable proposal. it includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes. in part, through raising rates on the top 2%. and lips loopholes and reductions. $50 billion in stimulus next year, and $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings to be worked out. >> i think the proposal delivered here by secretary geithner was not a serious proposal. >> they want this extra spending that's greater than the amount willing to cut. >> democrats say it was just a starting point. and one republicans should counter. >> there will be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. >> cnn learned last week the republicans gave the white house their own starting position, which democrats consider unbalanced. extending all
a deal on the budget. if they don't we'll go over the so-called fiscal cliff. mexico swearing in a new president and the reaction not good in the streets of mexico city. the inauguration is earlier today and marking the return of a party that was forced out a dozen years ago. after running the country 7 uninterrupted deck cades and playinged by crime. we are joined by lauren who is in mexico he promises that his party will be corruption-fro. that is important. you want stability south of our border considering they have a war going on. why should people believe it would be better. >> as you mentioned he has repeated again and again that his party is different than the one who left the presidency 12 years ago. he promised to create an anti-corruption commission to investigate grap that might happen . a lot of people are skeptical. why are pime in the streets. you are reporting for fox news latinie and that the kind of violence in mexico city is unmatched in reaction to an inauguration day. >> i think it was totally unexpected and there were not many protestors as people expected but a f
there will be no deal on the fiscal cliff unless both sides agree to raise rates on the wealthiest. that means raise tax rates for top earners. the reason that this is news is because there's been discussion publicly that perhaps they could find a rev new agreement where it would just involve capping deductions or maybe they could get to revenue just through tax reform, and with this piece of detail from that phone call yesterday, it would seem that the democrats, the president personally, is drawing a line saying those other ways are not enough. his campaign message that the top earners have to pay more, he is sticking to that line many these negotiations. >> jess, do we know how the republicans responded to this red line? >> well, speaker boehner was frustrated, wrovl, and came out with -- in his press conference today basically accusing the president of not leading on the issue. both sides are calling for the white house to come forward with spending cuts first, tell us where you are going to cut spending, before we, the republicans, will say whether we'll go along with you on tax rates. >> okay. the
're getting a look at what the white house is offering to stop the fiscal cliff stalemate. drastic mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in with the new year unless, unless the white house and republicans can reach a deal. for weeks, gop lawmakers have said we're just waiting for the white house to give details, specifics, some numbers. well, tonight that's happened. the white house is calling their bluff and they've laid out how they want to cut the debt. jessica yellin is over at the white house for us tonight with new developments. jessica, what are the specifics of this offer tonight? >> reporter: hi, wolf. according to senior officials on both sides of the aisle, the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that includes raising taxes for families who make $250,000 or more. you'll recognize that as a pledge from his campaign. and it also includes limiting deductions and loopholes as well as other changes to capital gains and dividends taxes. well, that is the headline for republicans, wolf, who say it is far more money in tax rates than they ever expected to hear fr
. >>> and they are looking for billions of dollars in cuts as they prepare to go over that fiscal cliff. hundreds of thousands of the jobs all over california could be affected, allison? >> 135 government workers in california could lose their jobs if there is no deal on those spending cuts that kick in at the end of the month. they say not only to plan for the cuts but that has changed. they are preparing to slice about 10% of their budget. experts are looking at 135 defense employees could lose their jobs but experts say there is still time to reach a deal and avoid those major lawsuits. >> nobody wants to reach a deal more than i. i will be ready to sit down with the president and solve this. >> reporter: they could be hit the hardest and i will have more about it during my next update on ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> they are looking at grant money from the environmental protection agency. each student could be awarded a large sum of money. stanford's group wants to disinfect drinking water in bangladesh. in april they go to washington d.c. to prevent their work to a panel of scientists an
their unemployment in four weeks unless congress reached a deal to avoid that fiscal cliff. letters have already gone out to almost 350,000 people in danger of losing their benefits. more than 2 million nationwide could loss also be affected. >>> bay area school lunch menus are changing as part of a push to get people to eat healthier food. they have been redone to meet new nutrition guidelines president the times reports students in many bay area school distributes are getting more fruits, vegetables and whole grains and less salt. >> flu season is off to a strong start. activity went up slightly over the thanksgiving holiday. every state is reporting some type of activity, but for vermont. doctors are recommending you get your shots and a free clinic is being offered tomorrow. >>> apple products are so popular parents are naming their children after them. a new report shows six girls were named apple this year, that's twice as many as last year. twice as many boys were named mac and 17 girls were named siri, that's six more than last year. >> the babies all beautiful no matter what name. we have
? that give us the extra to come out here and not take no for an answer. >> fiscal cliff talks are turning into a high stakes game of chicken. timothy geithner said there's no deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. republicans are furious. they don't like democrats drawing a red line in the sand. president obama and the gop leaders have only held one face-to-face meeting on the fis calgary cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the military trial of private bradley manning will stop fou now and resume in a month. that's what a military judge decided today. the delay is to give time for more of what the court calls pretrial proceedings. manning is accused of releasing u.s. military secrets through the website wikileaks. if convicted in a court-martial, he could get life in prison. >>> pope benedict is joining twitter officially. he launches his own internet account tomorrow. that's according to the vatican. a church official tells cnn that the pope will compose all of his tweets himself. no word yet on what he's chosen for his tw
in the upcoming fiscal cliff negotiations. 67% expect cringe-worthy immaturity. they don't have much faith in the congress, and they're crying out for a balanced approach. the same poll found 67% want a budget deal with a mix of spending cuts and tax increases, not just spending cuts alone. >>> back to that pledge. that pledge never to raise taxes. the rose grover nordqvist -- they aren't in this pledge. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. >> and a few brave lawmakers are beginning to acknowledge that their constituents may want flexibility. >> i answer to my constituents, not to a pledge. my constituents certainly don't want me to come to washington to raise their taxes, but
is reached -- tax increases and effect. president obama says the people need to be part of the fiscal cliff debate. and today, he's taking his message on the road. >> i believe that both parties can agree on a framework that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> but republican lawmakers, question the president's decision to leave washington. >> in other words rather than sitting down with lawmakers of both parties and working out an agreement he is back on the campaign trail presumably with the same old talking points that we are all quite familiar with. >> mister obama assured the public he is doing his part. also sitting down with the c-e-o's and labor >> i am ready and able and willing and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion so that american families and american businesses have some year. >> house speaker john boehner -- also remaining positive. >> republicans are committed t0continuing to work with the president to come to an agreement to avert the so- called fiscal cliff, it's one reaso
the fiscal cliff. because that just maybe gets you over the hump. this may be just a temporary fix to give them time to work out in 2013 perhaps a bigger deal, a grand bargain. but what does grand bargain mean. if you were able to cobble together a bigger deal, but a lot of people worry that's fiscal drag. and that will mean that as we move into '14, '15, growth will be a lot softer. >> you have to get confidence because. because if the consumer doesn't have confidence going into christmas and next year and saying i don't know what's going on, right now that's holding up our economy. two-thirds of our economy is driven by the consumer actually starting to spend. business is dragging. you will see a multiplier effect on the negative side and 2014 will look worse because people won't travel, they won't buy. all advertising, you can just look at kind of going across the board and saying if businesses don't know what's going on and congress can't get back together and the consumer said i thought things were going to get better because consumers always spend more than they have, that's going to
know you have all heard of the so-called fiscal cliff, the huge tax hikes and spending cuts that will be triggered if congress and the white house don't reach a budget deal by the end of the month. well, what are we looking at? first, cuts in defense. also bush era tax cuts set to x expire, so the majority of americans will pay more taxes. also at stake, the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits expect to get cut. dana, in your most recent column, you say it doesn't seem like anyone is doing anything but photo ops and news conferences. one politician was quoted as saying, effectively, we have a month. that's loads of time. is this a sophisticated game of chicken? >> it's a rather unsophisticated game of chicken, kind of elementary. what they're doing, both sides really, is doing a lot of posturing and waiting until they get close to the deadline if not go over the deadline because they feel if they go over the deadline, they're in a position to tell their hard core supporters, look, we have really got to make this deal now or that's the end. the economy goes back in
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